Kris von den Kirschronicles spricht in dieser Sitzung über die aktuelle Bankenkrise und über die Macht der Prophezeiungen. Die ganze Sitzung gibt es weiter unten in englisch.

Kris: Heute abend werden wir über Prophezeiungen reden. Der Begriff selber suggeriert, dass es gewöhnlich dem Göttlichen zugeordnet wird, dem Göttlichen und seinen Sprachrohren, oder wenn ihr wollt, seinen Marionetten. Menschliche Erfahrung zeigt jedoch, dass Prophezeiungen auch im alltäglichen Leben geschehen. Und gerade jetzt gibt es eine Menge Prophezeiungen, nicht nur in den Religionen, sondern in allen Bereichen.

Das Witzige mit Prophezeiungen ist, dass sie sehr leicht selbsterfüllend werden. Und deshalb kann es für den durchschnittlichen Menschen sehr erhellend sein, einen gewissen Grad an Gewahrsein über die eigenen Gedanken, Handlungen und Äußerungen zu erlangen. Denn sogar im Bereich des Sterblichen, sozusagen, gibt es jede Menge an Prophezeiungen und die Meisten davon sind selbsterfüllend. Und das Lustige darin ist, dass Prophezeiungen eine alte Kunst sind, die auf verschiedene Arten gemacht wird. Aber es ist auch eine Form der Fokussierung, was sie mit Hypnose und Ähnlichem verbindet.

Wir würden sagen, dass es jetzt eine gute Zeit dafür ist, in den Realitäten, die ihr selbst erschafft, aufzuwachen. Wir sprechen nicht nur von denen hier im Studio, sondern wenden uns an das Massenbewusstsein. Jetzt aufzuwachen wäre wirklich eine sehr gute Sache. Die Augen für die Realitäten, die ihr projiziert, zu öffnen. Wisst, dass je mehr ihr auf diese Ängste, dass der Markt zusammenbricht und die nächste große Depression kommt, fokussiert, je mehr ihr davon sprecht und je mehr ihr es in euer Bewusstsein aufnehmt, um so mehr bekommt ihr, worauf ihr euch konzentriert. So einfach ist das.

KRIS: Now this evening we would like to speak about prophecies.  Indeed.  The title itself may suggest something that is usually relegated to the domain of the gods, the divines and their mouthpieces, or if you wish, their puppets.  However, human experience also demonstrates that prophecies happen [on] a far more regular, mundane basis than you can shake a prophetic stick at.  And you have, right now, in the United States, a great amount of prophesying going on, not only in the religious quarters, but in almost all quarters.

And the very funny thing about prophecies and prophesying is that it can very easily become self-fulfilling.   And that is why it can be most illuminating indeed for the average individual to do some degree of noticing or observing of their thoughts, their actions, their utterances.  Because even at the level of the mortal coil, so to speak, a great amount of prophesying goes on and much of it is self-fulfilling.  And the funny thing is that prophecies, prophesying, is an old art.  It is used in many different ways.  But it is also a form of focusing, which relegates it also to the study of hypnosis and related matters.

Take, for example, what has been termed as mass hysteria.  When Adolph Hitler gave his famous speeches, where even in spite of their reluctance to do so, participants in the crowds who were completely opposed to his ideas found themselves swept up by the waves of clambering and cheering for the presentations.  In the United States and many other countries, but the United States in particular, because it is so prevalent right now and for the last several years, you have had a great deal of mass hysteria combined with prophesying, leading to some very interesting developments such as the mass events occurring now.

At the moment, literally hundreds of trillions of dollars are being brought into the game, as it were.  The prophesying is that if the bailout, the support, the backup is not provided, then you stand the chance of seeing the whole of the country being flushed down the toilet.  That generates mass hysteria, high emotional peaks, where the rational aspects of the individual’s perceptions are literally thrown out with the bath water, and you have reactionary measures, knee-jerk reactions, individuals do runs on banks, mortgages collapse.  And the prophets can easily claim, “See, we prophesized this and look what is happening.  Exactly as we prophesized.”   You have had this, again in the United States, with all the various kinds of alerts.  You have had this with weapons of mass destruction preaching, and so many other instances.  And yet to this day very few people have caught on to the tactics.

We would say that now is a good time to wake up to the realities that you are creating for yourselves.  We are not speaking only to the two of you here in this studio or the ones on Skype or the ones listening to the radio show, but we are also addressing the mass consciousness.  To wake up now would be a very good thing indeed.  To open your eyes to the realities you are projecting.  Know that the more you focus upon all of those fears of markets crashing and the next big depression happening, the more you talk about it the more it infuses your consciousness, the more you will have of what you concentrate upon.  It is as simple as that.

And it is as also as simple as that to wake up from this unsavory dream that you are experiencing, opening up your eyes, listening to the words you are saying, observing your behaviors and what you are allowing to influence your perceptions can do you a world of good.  Knowing that you have within you the potential to live something quite different, to live a life that is very different than the one that is being laid out for your because you have forgotten that you have the potential to reverse this for your own private experience.  Once you remember this, once you take it into account, once you guide the ship of your perceptions properly, then regardless of what the market does or does not do, your situation may indeed remain on course.

JOHN: That’s very good.

KRIS: Indeed you are observing the unfolding of mass events due to a massive shift in perceptions, unfolding right before your eyes.  How can you not see that?  Our whole point is it is possible for you to experience something different.  In that light, the subject matter presented for the next little course, fits right in there.  Thus what you are seeing is the fulfillment of all sorts of prophecies, because you are allowing it.  Do you follow?

JOHN: Yes, I do. Um, the um, that’s why when you first started, mentioned this topic, I sort of thought to myself, well isn’t, haven’t you said, or various other dead guys have said that it’s basically impossible to predict the future because we have free will.  We can change our mind.

KRIS: Indeed, but at the same time it is possible to see in what direction you are aiming your life.

JOHN: Right, the general probabilities that we’re engaging.

KRIS: Indeed.  Because what you concentrated upon yesterday, what you concentrate upon today, end up as what you will live tomorrow.

JOHN: Right.  As a matter of fact, do you mind if I just ask you a quick question on the side here?

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: Let’s say we’ve got human beings on the planet here, and for the most, I’m just going to guess here, but for the most part, for most human beings, they, throughout their whole lifetime stick pretty close to the probabilities that were there when they were young.  In other words, a forty or fifty or sixty-year old, even though we say we have free will, it seems to me that it’s probably very rare for someone to literally step outside, dramatically outside of the probabilities they’ve been building for themselves.

KRIS: The potential is ALWAYS literally on the tip of your tongue, in a manner of speaking.  But there is always what you call homeostasis, returning to the previous state, staying there where you are already comfortable.  It is a known factor, and unknown factors tend to be avoided.

JOHN: Uh-huh.

KRIS: Thus by focusing the entire nation’s awareness on potential calamities, of financial markets, housing markets and so many other markets, you have a very good predictability machine, its bearings well greased.

JOHN: Now, again correct me if I’m wrong but, ah, thinking back to the last mass event in the States, which I would say was 911, which resulted in the pushing through of The Patriot Act and attacking Iraq, ah, the pre-emptive attack on Iraq, uh that, there was very little, there was very little push-back from the American people on that.  Everybody jumped on board and saluted and there you go.  Now, the present crisis, the financial crisis, there is much more pushback and questioning in my experience.

KRIS: Indeed.  That is correct.  And that is why we are suggesting what we did, just now.  Open your eyes.  Ask questions.  Demand full accountability.  And guide the direction of your own perceptions carefully.  Do not let outside influences determine what you should or should not experience.  That is where free will comes in.  You can decide where your ship goes.  You can decide to go where every other ship goes.  Or you can decide to navigate uncharted waters for yourself, where YOU want to go.  Does that make sense?

JOHN: Absolutely.  And I think that what, the difference for me, what I suspect is the difference for millions of Americans is, that somehow they have developed a little bit tiny greater trust and understanding of themselves and what you’re talking about here, their own potential freedoms.  Whereas even as shortly ago as six years ago, um, they, they just didn’t have that resource.  They didn’t understand that that was a possibility.

KRIS: Indeed.  And many people, not just Americans but many people, are convinced that all of these things are the responsibilities of their governments.

JOHN: Right.

KRIS: So they then trust their governments explicitly, turning a blind eye even to that which is obviously outside the bounds of that trust, because no one wants to really challenge their own trust in others.

JOHN: Right.  Now in a way we can be grateful to George Bush because he’s really, really helping people to get over trusting big government.

[Mark laughs.]

KRIS: He has to be useful for something.  Now, in all jest, it is a good thing to remember that you have awareness, you can use it, you have knowledge, you can use it, you have wisdom, you can use it, and you can steer the direction of your perceptions to that which you want to explore, not that which others say you should do like the rest.

So this represents an additional nudge towards a greater shift in paradigms.  And it may bring about more accountability than some would want, both in terms of being accountable to others as well as knowing what accountability is, especially that you have a great deal of people who already know these things at one level or another.  This is to bring it up to their conscious awareness.  It is not an easy task by a long shot, but you can make it easier for yourself.  You are not predestined or preordained to do like everyone else.  That is where free will, free choice, comes into play.

And though some may experience their markets or other markets becoming unstable, you may discover other opportunities that are quite unlike what the others are experiencing.  And it may not be that you have to worry overly about the HOW of things.  Just to know that there is power in your intention.  Does that make sense to you?

JOHN: Oh, it’s lovely.  I like that.

KRIS: And we are not being naive or presenting something filled with naivety.  We understand the situations.

MARK: This is a very classic case of the present being the interpreter of the past and the weaver of the future.

JOHN: Yeah.

MARK: And what I also wanted to comment about is how much I’m astounded that, of, how we utilize prophecy in our day-to-day lives.  Like here we’re talking on a global scale with the economy, especially tied in to the United States, but it goes much, much further when you talk about global warming and the storms and the hurricanes and the damages that they’re doing.  Right down to me working in a grocery store in a renovation, weeks in advance saying, “Oh, this renovation is going to be hell”, setting it all up.

JOHN: Guess what?

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: Guess what.

KRIS: And do you know why, in this very moment, financial instability is spreading around the globe like wildfire or brush fire?

JOHN: Why?

MARK: Because we’re concentrating on it.

KRIS: And there is a reason for it.  The, you could say “behind the scenes factors”, are fear of the consequences of a full financial breakdown.  Thus what is motivating the situation is potential despair.  And that spreads faster than an epidemic.

JOHN: Ah.  So basically fear.

KRIS: Indeed.  Fear that the market crash will ruin everything.  And fear is a powerful motivator.  And when you have heads of countries pushing the fear buttons right up into Orange Alert, then what do you get?

JOHN: Mass hysteria.

KRIS: Lemmings willing to jump over the cliff.

JOHN: Right.

MARK: Look at gasoline, the buttons they keep pressing when they jack up those prices - huge changes worldwide.

KRIS: Now this is not our usual fare, as we do not often comment on world situations, but this merits stepping outside what you may think is our comfort box, because our comfort box does not match yours.  And some individuals may even be uncomfortable that we are venturing there.  But we are not uncomfortable.  It may even cause an eye opening or two.

JOHN: Yes.  Now my reading of, um, ever since a couple of weeks you, in that Sunday night, you talked about the interesting politics that are going on and how on both sides you’ve got value fulfillment.

KRIS: Indeed.

JOHN: And you’ve got a tremendous concentration of probabilities all focussed on that one day in November coming up.  The markets though, even though, I mean it’s a very serious, ah, potentially very serious situation, it seems to be swinging, in terms of mass events, it seems to be swinging things in favor of Obama.  So, you know, I mean it’s, ah, there’s a down side and honestly there’s an upside too.

KRIS: Indeed.  Now, each individual has his or her own set of value fulfillment.  A nation, whether a republic, a dictatorship, or otherwise, sometimes it is a republic dictatorship, has its own set of national values.  These also come into play.  And the millions of individuals who compose the citizenry add to their own value fulfillment.  So all of this works together to knit a most interesting s-tapestry.  We were going to say scarf, but  [Laughter.]   What do you have to add on that?

JOHN: Well it’s very interesting to me, ah, the ah, something that happened shortly after you mentioned, what, what I came out of your discussion a couple of weekends ago was that even though I’m frankly a Barrack Obama supporter, you know, and regard Republicans as basically reptilian,

[Laughter from Mark.]

JOHN: Um, at the same time what you helped me to see was Republicans are fulfilling their values in this and they’re quite sincere and absolutely valid human beings.  So what I like about this idea of knitting a fabric is that, I mean, just because a thread is blue or black or green doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have a place in the fabric.

KRIS: Indeed.  Now would you care to take a break?

MARK: Yes.  Thank you.

MUSICAL INTERLUDE

MARK: Welcome back to Kris Radio here on That Radio and ThatChannel.com. My name is Mark Bukator and I’m sitting here with John and Serge and Alan out there in Skype-land.  And we’ve been talking about prophecy.

SERGE: Yeah, and I prophecy that next week we’ll be here.

[Laugher.]

JOHN: So how are you doin’ Alan?  Is there any activity out there in the internet?

ALAN: Oh yeah.  It’s really interesting because, uh, uh, Bill Herman was saying that uh, uh, Kris has been talking about just exactly the issues that have been on his mind all day.  And Tom Sherlock commented that he was just becoming a little curious about how rarely Kris talks about mass events.  And, uh, I see you’re getting back underway there so I’ll hold off on any more.

KRIS: Please, feel free to continue.

ALAN: Well I just had the observation about how much better we might all be if we never read, watched or listened to the news because the news, the news are kind of the new prophets.  They take something that is supposed to be just a fact and they pull it up and they dramatize it and it becomes a prophecy.  And yet how much we value our ability to get instant news from anywhere.  But it’s still somebody’s version of what’s important.  And then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

JOHN: Uh-huh.  Yeah when you think about it, the news is incredibly powerful, because it focuses millions of creative consciousnesses onto a particular direction.

ALAN: Yeah, I mean, that’s exactly what’s goin on.

KRIS: And . . .

ALAN: And they think they’re just reporting facts but, ah, . . .

KRIS: And we believe again, as mentioned, that this is likely, has never been as apparent as it is now.

JOHN: Yeah.

KRIS: And when it becomes that apparent then it creates the opportunity to take action, appropriate action, not running to the hills for cover, but action.  Not to oppose or fight those situations because that is simply another form of concentration, but to literally reprogram and re-influence your own perception.  That, in a meaningful way, creates a positive outcome for yourself.

MARK: Okay.  Hypothetically, let’s just say that I’m falling into the media, I’m suckered in and I’m watching this and I’m absorbed, it’s, I’ve become passionate and pissed off even, and upset and it’s overwhelming me.

KRIS: Indeed.  And in a short amount of time you might start seeing in your life what they talked about.

MARK: Yes.  So how do I reverse that?

KRIS: First of all, even if you find yourself unable to completely shut off the tube, there is nothing specifically wrong or inherently wrong in looking at the television, listening to the news.  How you allow it to influence your perceptions, your moods, your states of mind is another matter entirely.  And if you find that impossible then we suggest you minimize exposure.  But if you can see it for what it is, a complete public mass demonstration of beliefs in action, of behavior showing what the beliefs are, and influences altering perceptions, a literal and veritable study in human psychology and consciousness above and beyond the regular teachings of schools of psychology where everything is a number, then you can have quite a buffet table laid out before you.  And it will also demonstrate where your own beliefs are aligned, giving you additional advantages to knowing more about whom and what you are.  And we believe the latter case is preferable than to being swept away by this flood of manipulations.

MARK: So in other words, I should acknowledge that these are a mass display of beliefs on a public scale, and acknowledge that they’re not my beliefs, and accept them as being very valid, and that’s what I accept.

JOHN: Accept the fact . . .

KRIS: Accepting is a good beginning.

JOHN: Accept yourself for having created it and finding meaning in it.

KRIS: And also accept and acknowledge that you have other meanings that you can bring into your consciousness that are much more fulfilling than those prophecies.

MARK: Okay.

KRIS: The prophets of Wall Street gloom and doom are experts in their game.  They’ve been doing this for a long time.  Usually it is with one individual after another.  When you take it to the next level you have an entire nation in the game.  And a game it is, as long as you see it that way.  Once you believe that this is the ultimate, end-all reality, then you are suckered in.  So be steadfast in your own convictions and steer your perceptions somewhere you want, not somewhere you do not want.  Who wants to have those markets crash?  You can stem the tide, but it takes cooperation.  Do you follow?

MARK: Absolutely.

KRIS: You can make a significant difference in your own personal life as well, and begin there.  Are there any questions in Skype-land?

MARK: Alan?

ALAN: Oh, sorry.  I had muted myself.  Nothing new, but just the various comments that we had.

KRIS: Indeed.  And we rather enjoy making occasional commentary and even purports on these kinds of events.  It gives the listeners a little more spice in their drink.

JOHN: Well I have an idea.  Why don’t we get together and start and start a new television channel.  I’m suggesting the name PNN, The Pollyanna News Network.  And it will be all about how, ah, stressing the probabilities that we “want” to have happen instead of the bad ones.

MARK: Yeah, but the Pollyanna suggests that it’s not going to happen.  You want a different name.

JOHN: Oh, all right.  I just thought it was cute.

[Laugher.]

KRIS: For all intents and purposes you are seeing what you call “conscious and deliberate creation” in action.

JOHN: Yeah.

KRIS: It may not be the kind of manifestations you desire, but it still exists nonetheless.

JOHN: A very good object lesson.

KRIS: Indeed.  First hand . . .

JOHN: Yeah.

KRIS: . . . for millions of individuals right now.

MARK: And here we get back to, again, taking that step backwards and going into observer mode and watching the events and watching the passions from all different sides, gives you an entirely different perspective.

JOHN: Well you know the, the insight that I’ve had, ah, assisted by the presentations that Kris has been making . . . For instance if you think about the Republicans.  Republic . . . what is being valued here?  Republicans value freedom, ah, free enterprise, um . . .

MARK: Profit.

JOHN: . . . profit, yes.  These are all good things.  There’s nothing wrong with any of that, right?  They, they value independence. They value a kind of a frontier mentality that says, “Okay.  It’s a Wild West out here but we’re gonna carve out a piece for ourselves.”  Well, this is all admirable, right?  So it’s helped me to have a little more friendly attitude towards that whereas before . . . otherwise I had been basically resisting that point of view.  But it’s very helpful to look at the values that they are attempting to fulfill.

KRIS: And they key is “attempting”.

JOHN: [Laughing.]  Well, exactly.  I mean, some . . .

KRIS: It occasionally takes a stick of lipstick, we hear.

[Laughter.]

JOHN: Well yes, exactly.  I mean, here’s the funny thing.  The Republicans are in a really funny place here because they value small government and uh, you’re on your own kind of independence, right?  And yet they find themselves having to inject a billion, hundreds and hundreds of just bizarre . . .

MARK: Well that’s the joke that’s going around right now is the Republicans like to profit personally but take losses countrywide.

JOHN: Yes, exactly.  So it’s, ah, in other words the, their, their, um . . .

KRIS: What it may come down to is that their money is theirs and your money is theirs too.

[Laughter.]

JOHN: But their . . . I mean if you look at it in terms of mass events and mass belief systems, the, their conditioning from a hundred years ago, fifty years ago is just simply out of date.  It doesn’t work anymore.

KRIS: Indeed.  So it is now time . . .

ALAN: You know, let me s . . .

KRIS: . . . for a different kind of blood.  Now how much time left?

MARK: About two minutes.

KRIS: Indeed.  Please continue Alan.

ALAN: Oh just one quick question from Tom Sherlock.  And he wants to know if there seems to be any real parallel between the financial stirrings that we have right now and the things that led up to the crash and depression of 1929/30, in that era?  Is this, you now, is this the similar fear and panic that led to that, or is this a far different set of criteria and beliefs?

KRIS: We believe that a study of old crash may bring many insights into what is occurring today.  Do keep in mind one thing, that what you do and decide to focus upon today determines the outcome tomorrow and the outcome from yesterday.

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